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我更倾向于相信这女的被人当枪使了还不自知,或者知道被当枪使了也只能一条道走到黑了,就像福特教授一样。
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本着科学八卦的精神,我去搜了一下当时看到的新闻,这是Reuters的报道,警察第一次来根本没有arrest, 刘强东是第二天晚上11点钟在明大的校园里被捕的。

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-jd-com-ceo-insight/the-night-a-chinese-billionaire-was-accused-of-rape-in-minnesota-idUSKCN1M40EQ

Minneapolis police came to her apartment early that morning while Liu was there, but made no arrests, another source familiar with the situation said. Reuters could not determine exactly what occurred during the police visit, but the source said the woman declined to press charges in Liu’s presence.

In a WeChat message with one of her friends, she asked her friend why the billionaire would be interested in “an ordinary girl” like her.

“If it was just me, I could commit suicide immediately,” she wrote. “But I’m afraid that my parents will suffer.”

By Friday morning, she also wrote to one of her two friends that she had told several people about what had happened, including the police, a few friends and at least one teacher. She wrote that she would keep her bed sheets. “Evidence cannot be thrown away,” she wrote.

On Friday afternoon, the student went to a hospital to have a sexual assault forensic test, the source said.

Police officers arrived at a University of Minnesota office shortly after an emergency call around 9 p.m that night. The student was present at the office, alongside school representatives, and accused Liu of rape, the source said.

Representatives for the University of Minnesota declined to comment on detailed questions from Reuters.

Liu came to the university office around 11 p.m. while police were there, according to the person familiar with the matter. As an officer handcuffed him, Liu showed no emotion. “I need an interpreter,” he said, according to the source.
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53#

不过刘强东肯定是烂人一个,他现在应该赶紧下台,如果他真的想救他的公司和兄弟。
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本着科学八卦的精神,我去搜了一下当时看到的新闻,这是Reuters的报道,警察第一次来根本没有arrest, 刘强东是第二天晚上11点钟在明大的校园里被捕的。

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-jd-com-ceo-insight/the-night-a-chinese-billionaire-was-accused-of-rape-in-minnesota-idUSKCN1M40EQ

Minneapolis police came to her apartment early that morning while Liu was there, but made no arrests, another source familiar with the situation said. Reuters could not determine exactly what occurred during the police visit, but the source said the woman declined to press charges in Liu’s presence.

In a WeChat message with one of her friends, she asked her friend why the billionaire would be interested in “an ordinary girl” like her.

“If it was just me, I could commit suicide immediately,” she wrote. “But I’m afraid that my parents will suffer.”

By Friday morning, she also wrote to one of her two friends that she had told several people about what had happened, including the police, a few friends and at least one teacher. She wrote that she would keep her bed sheets. “Evidence cannot be thrown away,” she wrote.

On Friday afternoon, the student went to a hospital to have a sexual assault forensic test, the source said.

Police officers arrived at a University of Minnesota office shortly after an emergency call around 9 p.m that night. The student was present at the office, alongside school representatives, and accused Liu of rape, the source said.

Representatives for the University of Minnesota declined to comment on detailed questions from Reuters.

Liu came to the university office around 11 p.m. while police were there, according to the person familiar with the matter. As an officer handcuffed him, Liu showed no emotion. “I need an interpreter,” he said, according to the source.
mjtalk 发表于 4/18/2019 10:28:39 AM 我看了强东强奸起诉书两遍,我觉得起诉书暗示警方检方贪赃枉法-54楼我看了强东强奸起诉书两遍,我觉得起诉书暗示警方检方贪赃枉法-54楼[/url]


问题就是出在这个“made no arrest”。女生说了“我被强奸了”,被告光着身体。警察啥都没做,就让被告自己离开了,匪夷所思啊。不符合任何我见到的police protocol。即使是警察知道有人报告被打了一拳,都会带被告方回警局问话。
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这脑洞更大了,连律师跟警方检方的人情都出来了。民事诉讼跟检方无关,可是哪怕检方当时立案了,民事胜诉的可能性就大大增加,怎么跟检查官没关系呢?警方,那更是中心问题啊。警方的出警记录,警方的报告是给这件事定性的一个重要因素,怎么就无关了呢?Again,如果这个民事诉讼书的内容100%属实,根本解释不了为什么没有刑事案件。还是等等看被告的应诉和警方记录吧。

Cherrychocolate 发表于 4/18/2019 8:31:57 AM 我看了强东强奸起诉书两遍,我觉得起诉书暗示警方检方贪赃枉法-55楼


不要说我脑洞大,我也无法理解警察检方的决定。只能说这件事我们觉得比较热门,在当地可能谁都不知道。一点不影响警察在当地的声誉,也不影响检查官的前程和竞选。


steve888 发表于 4/18/2019 8:54:34 AM
无法理解是因为潜意识里都预设立场。网上绝大部分人,因为刘强东有钱,因为他和奶茶晒幸福,因为他高调做事,潜意识中对刘强东很反感。所以早就预设立场是强奸。任何和这立场相反的事实或证据,都会被他们忽略或者怀疑。
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56#

我更倾向于相信这女的被人当枪使了还不自知,或者知道被当枪使了也只能一条道走到黑了,就像福特教授一样。
aiyamayayongle 发表于 4/18/2019 10:25:32 AM 我看了强东强奸起诉书两遍,我觉得起诉书暗示警方检方贪赃枉法-56楼

她应该知道得很清楚。 福特靠诬告拿了几个米的捐款, 出书又是几个米。
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57#

主要是三点,
1,司机明显目睹了性侵。原告明显准备用司机做为证人。但是警察和检察官肯定都没有采信司机的证词。
    30 ... The foregoing interaction, assault and battery, were witnessed by the chauffeur.
2,警察听到被告是个有钱名人后就把他给放了。没有采取任何措施。即使在原告明确说被强奸之后
    44. As soon as Defendant Liu was removed from her apartment, one of the police officers questioned the Plaintiff about what had happened. The Plaintiff told the law enforcement officer she had been raped by Defendant Liu. The Plaintiff told the interviewing officer that Defendant Liu is an internationally famous and wealthy person and is listed in Forbes Magazine.
    然后刘强东就莫名其妙地给放了。
3, 警察居然都不收集证据。证据都是原告自己收集的。
    45. The hospital employees also took possession of the Plaintiff's bedsheet and underwear so that those items could be logged into police evidence.

https://www.google.com/search?q=27-cv-19-5911

http://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Liu.pdf

再说一遍,不要相信以前的各种谣言误传,现在开始以起诉书为准。这些事实原告说有警察的body camera footage做为证据,有录像的事实,不可能胡说八道,否则直接输官司。















steve888 发表于 4/17/2019 10:26:44 PM 我看了强东强奸起诉书两遍,我觉得起诉书暗示警方检方贪赃枉法-57楼我看了强东强奸起诉书两遍,我觉得起诉书暗示警方检方贪赃枉法-57楼[/url]


什么时候可以按照起诉书为准了?我一直以为是按照法官判决为准的
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问题就是出在这个“made no arrest”。女生说了“我被强奸了”,被告光着身体。警察啥都没做,就让被告自己离开了,匪夷所思啊。不符合任何我见到的police protocol。即使是警察知道有人报告被打了一拳,都会带被告方回警局问话。



steve888 发表于 4/18/2019 10:36:31 AM 我看了强东强奸起诉书两遍,我觉得起诉书暗示警方检方贪赃枉法-58楼

你没看到“the women declined to press charge”啊?那不就是警察来了,看见LQD裸体,就是俩人发生性关系了,当然就没arrest了啊。
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本着科学八卦的精神,我去搜了一下当时看到的新闻,这是Reuters的报道,警察第一次来根本没有arrest, 刘强东是第二天晚上11点钟在明大的校园里被捕的。

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-jd-com-ceo-insight/the-night-a-chinese-billionaire-was-accused-of-rape-in-minnesota-idUSKCN1M40EQ

Minneapolis police came to her apartment early that morning while Liu was there, but made no arrests, another source familiar with the situation said. Reuters could not determine exactly what occurred during the police visit, but the source said the woman declined to press charges in Liu’s presence.

In a WeChat message with one of her friends, she asked her friend why the billionaire would be interested in “an ordinary girl” like her.

“If it was just me, I could commit suicide immediately,” she wrote. “But I’m afraid that my parents will suffer.”

By Friday morning, she also wrote to one of her two friends that she had told several people about what had happened, including the police, a few friends and at least one teacher. She wrote that she would keep her bed sheets. “Evidence cannot be thrown away,” she wrote.

On Friday afternoon, the student went to a hospital to have a sexual assault forensic test, the source said.

Police officers arrived at a University of Minnesota office shortly after an emergency call around 9 p.m that night. The student was present at the office, alongside school representatives, and accused Liu of rape, the source said.

Representatives for the University of Minnesota declined to comment on detailed questions from Reuters.

Liu came to the university office around 11 p.m. while police were there, according to the person familiar with the matter. As an officer handcuffed him, Liu showed no emotion. “I need an interpreter,” he said, according to the source.
mjtalk 发表于 4/18/2019 10:28:39 AM 我看了强东强奸起诉书两遍,我觉得起诉书暗示警方检方贪赃枉法-59楼我看了强东强奸起诉书两遍,我觉得起诉书暗示警方检方贪赃枉法-59楼[/url]


问题就是出在这个“made no arrest”。女生说了“我被强奸了”,被告光着身体。警察啥都没做,就让被告自己离开了,匪夷所思啊。不符合任何我见到的police protocol。即使是警察知道有人报告被打了一拳,都会带被告方回警局问话。



steve888 发表于 4/18/2019 10:36:31 AM
你看,这就是故意忽略事实以支持自己的观点。第一次没有没抓是因为女的,在室外单独回答警方问题时,告诉警方报警是误会。这警方是有视频记录的。但你在这更本不提这事,要么是抹黑的水军,要么就是潜意识作怪让自己的逻辑思维被扭曲了。
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你看,这就是故意忽略事实以支持自己的观点。第一次没有没抓是因为女的,在室外单独回答警方问题时,告诉警方报警是误会。这警方是有视频记录的。但你在这更本不提这事,要么是抹黑的水军,要么就是潜意识作怪让自己的逻辑思维被扭曲了。
fino819 发表于 4/18/2019 10:52:41 AM 我看了强东强奸起诉书两遍,我觉得起诉书暗示警方检方贪赃枉法-60楼我看了强东强奸起诉书两遍,我觉得起诉书暗示警方检方贪赃枉法-60楼[/url]


如果你说的是事实。女生还告什么?被告body camera footage给法官一看,直接case dismiss,因为起诉书里的基本事实是错的。现在女生说她的说法是有警方body camera footage支持的。你到底看没看起诉书啊?我相信起诉书,因为这个“body camera footage”,这个是铁的事实,相信女生律师不会傻到看着录像说瞎话。
最后编辑steve888 最后编辑于 2019-04-18 11:15:27
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