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想请教有关基督教是怎么理解轮回转世的

我是一个初信主的基督徒,灵性还不是很高,还在学习中。以前看过很多有关轮回转世的报道和研究,受访者是真切的记得前世的经历并且也验证了确有其事,比如有名的二战飞行员转世的小詹姆斯。但是圣经里说人只有一生一世,死后即是审判。也听人说以前圣经里是有有关轮回转世的内容的,只不过被删掉了。想请教灵性比我高的姐妹是怎么看这个问题的。

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free will...You can choose to be an angel or a soul . you can also choose to get back to any planet.

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圣经里关于自由意志free will解释和你说的完全不同,如果不熟悉圣经,请不要乱解释。

圣经也没有所谓的“有轮回转世只不过被删掉”的事。

没有轮回转世的这种事,这不过都是佛教(撒旦)抢夺人灵魂的伎俩。人的生命由神所造,乃是神按照自己的形象(不是指外表,乃是指spirit灵)造的,今生结束灵魂去天国,就是和神同在的永世。

约翰福音 8:32 你 们 必 晓 得 真 理 , 真 理 必 叫 你 们 得 以 自 由 。
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没有轮回转世。period。

死后只有三个地方可以去。地狱,炼狱,天堂。


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请教一下,这个地狱和炼狱是怎么分的?圣经上并没有明确的定义。我的理解,今生之后,就两个去处,一个是天国,是有神同在的地方。一个是地狱,是没有神同在的地方,没有生命没有盼望没有光是永世的黑暗。

约翰福音 8:32 你 们 必 晓 得 真 理 , 真 理 必 叫 你 们 得 以 自 由 。
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我想打个岔请教-请问猫猫狗狗呢?如果我们因信神而到达天国会和心爱的猫猫狗狗重聚吗?
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圣经上说神是按着自己的形象(灵)造人,但是动物不是这么造的。至于能不能重聚,和全能的上帝求吧。

约翰福音 8:32 你 们 必 晓 得 真 理 , 真 理 必 叫 你 们 得 以 自 由 。
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我是一个初信主的基督徒,灵性还不是很高,还在学习中。以前看过很多有关轮回转世的报道和研究,受访者是真切的记得前世的经历并且也验证了确有其事,比如有名的二战飞行员转世的小詹姆斯。但是圣经里说人只有一生一世,死后即是审判。也听人说以前圣经里是有有关轮回转世的内容的,只不过被删掉了。想请教灵性比我高的姐妹是怎么看这个问题的。


greagre 发表于 2020-12-17 14:16

中文的”灵魂“这个词对应”soul“。 圣经里,英文词“soul”对应希伯来语”nephesh“。 nephesh原词的概念,word study, 在 The Bible Project 这里讲的很好了:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_igCcWAMAM&t=47s


简单来说,就是活人是“living soul”, 死人是“dead soul,” 所以soul在圣经里上下文的解释是“entire being”, 而不是希腊人开创的想法那样-----人死后灵魂和人的身体能分开,身体死,灵魂飘啊飘的继续存在。试问如果人身体和灵魂分得开,Jesus在十字架上因人的罪,受难而死,三天后被上帝复生,那么Jesus死的是什么?只是肉体死,灵魂没死?还是全部死透了?Jesus Christ 十字架上的死,和任何人的死一样,都是死透了。


我们都知道Hebrews 9:27-28 KJV: And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgement: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

圣经里讲,人只死一回,之后便是审判。


基督教教义,Christ Jesus的第二次降临是Jesus带着上帝的权柄来审判我们的 (Romans 2:16 KJV: In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Christ Jesus according to my gospel.) 活人,死人,全部都会被审判。如果有轮回转世,基督的审判在哪里?在轮回了很多次之后的审判日吗?那轮回从第n次,到第n+1次的时候,谁决定你轮回到人道还是猪狗道?Karma嘛?那么谁决定了karma? 基督审判我们的标准是什么?是God’s righteousness & God’s commandments. Karma轮回的theory 把 Sin taken out of the picture 了。因为如果有Karma, 那么不需要基督为我们赎罪建立新约,因为终归karma会找到你,balance it out. 如果karma 管用,旧约里希伯来人也不需要为自己犯的罪而宰杀牲畜,向上帝献各种上帝要求的祭,用牲畜的血赎罪了。如果karma 管用,基督就不需要为我们死,用他的血,once for all, to atone for our sin了. Hebrews 10:1-18 KJV:

1For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.

But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.

4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.


Ephesians 1:7 KJV: In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace…. 

1 John 2:2-3 ESV: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world.  And by this we know that we have come to know him, if we keep his commandments.


耶稣基督完成旧约,建立新约,是为了洗净我们之前的罪,所以圣灵能进驻到我们身体里,我们 Love God and keep His comandments, 不再犯罪,在有且仅有的这一生的生命中,在末日审判之前,结出荣耀上帝的果子,这就是能经受住火的考验的果子。

1 Corinthians 3:13 KJV: Every men’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. 


有圣灵,也有邪灵。圣灵能进驻在追随基督耶稣的信徒身上 (1 Corinthians 3:16-17 KJV: Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.), 同样也有邪灵进驻在没有God‘s Words and the Holy Spirit for discernment 的人身上。Acts 16:16, Paul 和Silas怎样rebuked the slave girl with the spirit of divination 的?



我觉得圣经旧约,新约一定都要读,互相对照patterns, shadows, prophecies, 和 no news things under the sun。旧约是of the flesh, 新约是of the spirit, 新约里读不懂的,旧约会启发你。但是,最重要的是,pray for the Holy Spirit to guide you, 然后 test the fruit of the sprit (1 John 4:1) against God''s words in the Bible. 


John 16:13 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.


1 John 4:1-3 ESV: Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already.


2 Peter 1:5-8 ESV: For this very reason, make every effort to supplement your faith with virtue, and virtue with knowledge, and knowledge with self-control, and self-control with steadfastness, and steadfastness with godliness, and godliness with brotherly affection, and brotherly affection with love. For if these qualities are yours and are increasing, they keep you from being ineffective or unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 


Luke 11:9-13 ESV: And I tell you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks it will be opened.  What father among you, if his son asks for a fish, will instead of a fish give him a serpent; or if he asks for an egg, will give him a scorpion? If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!”



最后,圣经里人死了,都是“asleep” ,例子有很多,包括复活Lazarus那里 (John 11:11-14)。 人死后并不是马上进天堂,而是跟睡着了一样,等待被唤醒,那就是基督耶稣审判所有人之时。审判之后才有奖赏和火湖, 不是一死就上天堂和地狱的,这种想法也是在末日审判上进了盲区。

1 Chrinthians 15:17-19, ESV: And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile and you are still in your sins. Then those who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 

Acts 7:59-60, Stephen’s death, ESV: “and they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, and lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep


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转世投胎的理论肯定是不正确的。如果人的灵魂会转世投胎,那地球上最早的智人,他们的灵魂是从哪里转世来的?是从古类人猿转世来的吗?那地球上最早的类人猿呢?是从古代的黑猩猩转世来的吗?那古代的黑猩猩呢?如此上溯到细菌吗?且不说细菌有没有灵魂,如果细菌有灵魂,世界上第一个细菌,它的灵魂是从哪里转世投胎来的?看样子只能推到外星人身上了。如果按天文学家的推算,上帝在138亿年前创造出宇宙,那宇宙中第一个有灵魂的外星人,他的灵魂是从哪转世投胎来的呢?

当美国人每个礼拜天都不去教会做礼拜时,美国离地狱就不远了。

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我是一个纯粹的圣经爱好者,经过了这里。

大卫的诗篇有这样的言语:

神说:因为他专心爱我,我就要搭救他。因为他知道我的名,我要把他安置在高处。

他若求告我,我就应允他。他在急难中,我要与他同在。我要搭救他,使他尊贵。

我要使他足享长寿,将我的救恩显明给他。

大卫的 神,就是 耶稣。 耶稣施恩给大卫,是因大卫专心爱他。

人不能有两主,因为不是轻这个就是重那个。

信耶稣的人也不能有两个,或两个以上的神。因为他是忌邪的神,他的名为忌邪者。

若选定了圣经,便要专心于圣经,拒绝圣经以外的;

若接纳了圣经以外的,看圣经与他是无益的,因为耶稣要寻求他的人要有一颗纯一清洁的心。

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